An
Interview with
A. Thomas Horvath, Ph.D.,
author of
Sex,
Drugs, Gambling & Chocolate
A Workbook for Overcoming Addictions
•
If I came to you with an addiction problem, how would you begin
to help me?
The
place to begin is to understand the benefits of the addiction. For
instance, do you drink to enjoy socializing, to relax, to forget
something, to fit in with others, or for some other reason? Once you
understand what the addictive behavior does for you, you can begin to
find a replacement for it, or realize you can live without it. Chapters
3 and 4 focus on understanding the benefits of the addiction.
•
Is there anything wrong with someone wanting to believe in a
higher power, and thinking their addiction is a disease?
There
is nothing wrong with either of these beliefs, if they work for you. I
do not attempt to talk anyone out of these beliefs. However, if these
beliefs don't seem accurate, or are not working well, alternative
perspectives are available, and are effective for many. Chapters 1 and 2
introduce some alternative perspectives.
•
Is attempting moderation dangerous, especially if someone has
crossed over the line into alcoholism or addiction?
The
terms "alcoholic" and "addict" are only useful from
a 12-step or disease perspective. From the perspective I am presenting,
there is no "line" to cross over. Addictive behavior is a
matter of degree. At what point is someone "rich" or
"fat"? Each of us could have our own definitions of these
terms.
I
have seen many individuals get overly focused on whether the term addict
or alcoholic fits them. They lose sight of the crucial issue: solve the
problems you have, regardless of what their level is or what you call
them. If you are doing too much of a good thing, it makes sense to cut
back. If cutting back doesn't work, then stopping makes sense. These are
highly personal decisions, and only you can make them.
If
you believe that you have a disease, and that consuming even a little of
your addictive substance sets off an uncontrollable sequence of
behavior, then attempting moderation obviously makes no sense. However,
if it's not a disease, then attempting moderation makes great sense.
Take
a "hard core drug addict" and give him some of his favorite
substance. Then offer him more, but put a gun to his head. If he takes
more substance, you will pull the trigger. Will he take it? By
comparison, tell someone to sit awake in a chair for two weeks, without
falling asleep, or you will pull the trigger. Everybody dies under this
scenario.
The
two scenarios illustrate the difference between a voluntary and
involuntary behavior. At a certain point the body takes over, and you
fall asleep. The body does not take over and make you use. Whenever it
is important enough to you, you can control your behavior. When you have
no compelling reason to be in control, you may feel "out of
control," but you would gain control instantly if the circumstances
changed enough. The longer you are involved in addiction, the less
likely you are to be influenced by outside circumstances (whether people
get upset with you, whether you lose your job, etc.). But probably a gun
to the head influences everyone (who is not suicidal)!
A
discussion of moderation, and choices in recovery, occurs in Chapter 7,
and elsewhere in the workbook.
•
Why don't you use the terms "alcoholic" or
addict"?
If
you find these terms helpful, use them. But they are all-or-none labels
that distort the reality that there are as many ways to have addictive
behavior problems, and to change them, as there are individuals. It is
not necessary to use these labels in order to change. I encourage my
clients merely to recognize that they have had some problems. If they
want to prevent future problems, we work on doing that.
•
How does someone cope with cravings?
The
fundamental facts about cravings are that they are time limited, cannot
force you to act (even though you may feel they do), and are not harmful
(although they may be distracting). Most craving techniques involve some
form of reminding yourself of these facts, and the advantages of not
using, until the craving goes away. In the first days of change you
might have frequent, strong and lengthy cravings. Over one to two months
they diminish substantially in frequency, strength and length. In one to
two years they may be gone entirely or nearly so. After a year, if you
had a 1 (on a 10 point scale), which came up once a month, and lasted
several seconds, how much of a problem would that be? Chapters 8, 9 and
10 present techniques for coping with craving.
•
What's the proof that what you write about is more effective than
going to AA meetings?
AA
meetings are effective for some people, but not most. If AA (and related
groups) were so effective, why do we still have so many addiction
problems? Surely by now everyone has heard of AA. Many people won't even
attend AA, but maybe they would try out a different approach.
The
scientific proof of AA's effectiveness does not exist. The US Secretary
of Health and Human Services has written: "The effectiveness of AA
has not been scientifically documented." (Alcohol
and Health, 1990, page 265).
The
techniques offered in Sex, Drugs,
Gambling & Chocolate have been shown to be effective with a wide
range of individuals with addictive behavior. The National Institute on
Drug Abuse has written: "Behavioral therapies are critical
components of effective treatment for addiction. In therapy, patients
address issues of motivation, build skills to resist drug use, replace
drug-using activities with constructive and rewarding nondrug-using
activities, and improve problem-solving abilities. Behavioral therapy
also facilitates interpersonal relationships and the individual's
ability to function in the family and community." (Principles
of Drug Addiction Treatment, 1999, page 4) These are the same issues
that are covered in the workbook.
•
Why aren't scientifically supported addiction treatments more
widely available? If they were, would it make any difference in the
recent rise in substance abuse?
I
believe that scientifically supported addiction treatment would be more
available if existing treatment programs would be more open to learning
about them. Unfortunately, most US programs are dominated by individuals
who believe that AA is the only way. In how many other aspects of
healthcare is an approach that was developed in 1935 still the primary
modality? I believe that if we had more addiction treatment options
available, more people might seek them, resulting in fewer addiction
problems.
•
Are activity addictions really the same as a substance addiction?
After all, don't those substances have a big impact on the user?
Clearly
substances have a chemical effect on the body. However, so do the
chemicals that are released internally when, for instance, a gambler
gets a "high" from gambling. It is not necessary to choose
whether substance addictions are the same or different than activity
addictions. They are similar in some ways, and different in others, just
as individual cocaine users are similar in some ways, and different in
others. The idea behind the workbook is that the methods of overcoming
addictive behavior are essentially the same regardless of whether it is
a substance or an activity. However, even though the change process is
the same, it doesn't mean that the effects of the addiction are the
same.
•
How does someone build and maintain motivation to change?
Motivation
to change is primarily built on the perception that I have something to
lose if I keep up the addictive behavior. It is amazing how much some
people are willing to lose for an addiction, but most get to the point
where they don't want to lose any more, and take control of themselves.
I help my clients identify what they have lost, and what they will soon
lose if they continue. What to do at that point is up to them. Most try
stopping, moderating, or at least cutting back to less harmful
involvement.
Chapter
5 focuses on identifying the costs of addictive behavior. If there is
little or nothing to lose, then the term addiction has little meaning.
If you are dying from cancer and need morphine for pain, what would you
think of the physician who refused to provide the dose you need because
you might become "addicted" to it?
•
Because addictive problems can be so severe, doesn't someone need
to make a spiritual change as part of overcoming addiction?
In
the process of changing an addiction it may be necessary to make major
changes, including spiritual ones. However, it may only be necessary to
make minor changes. Each individual is different.
The
one-size-fits-all spiritual approach of AA is also clearly not going to
work for everyone. There are many approaches to spirituality. Although
in AA you are free to choose what/who your higher power is, how that
higher power acts is prescribed in the 12 steps. If your understanding
of a higher power is different from how the 12 step higher power is
supposed to act, the 12 steps are not appropriate for you. Your
spirituality may not even contain a higher power (e.g., some Eastern
religions, some humanists).
If
someone needs to re-connect to what is most important in his or her life
(which is what having a "spiritual change" really means), this
is an individual matter. The 12 steps provide useful guidance on this
issue for some, but not for everyone. When clients I work with need to
address the issue of what is most important in life, we do this together
or with appropriate outside help, and then work to make the changes that
the client decides on.